Elsha ([info]sixth_light) wrote,
@ 2008-07-19 21:20:00
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Current mood: aggravated
Entry tags:feminism, squee, things that make me angry, tv watching

...but.
I'm probably last on the boat with this, but you are all dead to me if you do not go and watch Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. After all: supervillain musical starring Nathan Fillion and Neil Patrick Harris and written by Joss Whedon. The last time I saw that much awesome in one sentence was when I read that Richard Dawkins married Lalla Ward after meeting her at Douglas Adams' birthday party, and even that is trumped by supervillain musical.

But.

One of my long-standing problems with Joss Whedon is the fact that he is a feminist and dedicated to promoting feminism in his works, and at the same time manages to fail in some very important and disappointing ways. That doesn't make his work any less brilliant, or his activism less important, it's just - disappointing.

And with this, he isn't even trying.



So there are only three main characters in this. One of them is a girl. There's actually a pretty even gender ratio among the walk-on characters, i.e., everyone else, so I'll hand Joss that.

But the main female lead? Her job is to:

- be sweet, beautiful, kind to small animals, etcetera
- sing about life and love and stuff
- have no agency whatsoever
- be adored from afar by the antihero
- be dated, boasted about as a sex object, and publicly humiliated by the...er, hero.
- die tragically in order to emotionally effect the antihero.

Think of her, if you will, as Tara from Buffy, only if Tara had zero agency and gayness and coolness.

Please tell me I do not have to explain to you the ways in which this is so cliched it kills me, and this in a story which is otherwise trying to undermine, examine, and overturn superhero cliches. But THE GIRL STILL GETS FRIDGED.

I'm just - JOSS. FOR GOD'S SAKE, THINK FOR THREE SECONDS ABOUT YOUR PLOTS.

Otherwise - you know, hilarious! Brilliant! There was a horse! It rocked!

But the girl. gets. fridged.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.




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[info]danel4d
2008-07-19 10:16 am UTC (link)
Having watched it now, the particularly sad thing is that it's a kind of half-subversion of the 'women in refrigerators' thing - from the perspective of the world at large, a laughable minor villain just upgraded himself by brutally murdering the hero's girlfriend, which is exactly what WIR is in the first place. It's just sad that Joss couldn't do a full-subversion rather than the old semi-subversion - the kind that just ends up falling into the same errors as the thing it tries to parody. It plays out so 'perfectly' in many ways, that Joss had to be thinking of this when he did it; it just makes it all the worse that he didn't outright subvert and parody the idea rather than having it be kind of inverted.

But yeah, it's Joss. I can't think of other way it could have possibly ended than like this, really. ANGST.

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[info]sixth_light
2008-07-19 11:00 am UTC (link)
You're right, actually; I hadn't thought of it that way. But if the only way you can think of to satirise fridging the hero's girlfriend is to....fridge the protagonist's girlfriend, then all I can say is Satire: Ur Doin It Rong.

And of course it couldn't have ended any other way than angsty. :/ Which is what you expect from a Whedon production, but still - does he seriously not get tired of ending everything horribly? He hasn't even mastered the semi-non-depressing ending, let alone the happy one.

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[info]charliesmum
2008-07-19 11:51 am UTC (link)
I just posted about Dr Horrible.

Wait. She gets killed? Really? Bummer. How did you see the last bit? Oh, right. You are in the part of the world where it's tomorrow already.

But, more importantly, does Dr Horrible get into the Evil League of Evil? (I'm going to be away this week and I will miss the ending, as it isn't the 19th here yet.)

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[info]sixth_light
2008-07-19 09:01 pm UTC (link)
Yes, he does. The Evil League of Evil is quite cool, actually - you only see them for about thirty seconds, but there's some excellent makeup and costuming going on, and a 50/50 gender ratio.

I thought Act III was supposed to go up on the Sunday, but it came up last night (Saturday) for us, so who knows what was going on.

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[info]lalumena
2008-07-19 09:44 pm UTC (link)
I sort of enjoyed the blog, though didn't love it as much as some, I think.

If I'm being honest the female role didn't worry me too much, apart from the fact that she died at the end. I think I'm just sick of sad endings as somehow being artistically superior. Because they acknowledge the world can be a crappy place or are somehow more realistic? Or subvert our expectations and are therefore more emotionally affective. Bah. Call me a romantic, but I like fictional creations that are cheering. Not that I'm familiar with the entirety of Joss' body of work, but doesn't he have a penchant for unexpected deaths? The idea being that no-one is safe in a Whedon work, I guess. Which I can understand, but stil would have liked a happy ending! (And if she'd stood up to Hammer, that would have been far more empowering.)

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[info]labellementeuse
2008-07-19 10:50 pm UTC (link)
IAWT post; The Hathor Legacy has another good one.

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